Beyond Belief Extra – Fiat Novitas!

Next month will see the Global Atheist Convention in Melbourne in Australia, where several thousand of the faithful faithless will gather to hear the like of Dawkins, PZ Myers and AC Grayling hold forth on enlightenment, reason, truth and science. Oh and they may mention God and religion once or twice. But isn’t it a little weird for a bunch of atheists to start acting like a religion? Maybe a bit, according to the head of the Atheist Foundation of Australia, David Nicholls. “[Atheists] do not believe in shoving views down thoats. They mistrust group-think and are suspicious of institutions. […] Atheists are, by definition, not joiners.” Individualists or not, over 2500 will congregate this March to swap thoughts and ideas, as a group (Sydney Morning Herald).

And if you can have an atheist congregation, how long will it be before there’s an atheist preacher? Well this is exactly the situation the Dutch Protestant Church found themselves in recently after one of their number, Klass Hendrikse, published a book called Believing in a God who does not exist. Surprisingly, they have decided to do nothing, concluding that Hendrikse’s beliefs, which include that God is not a real being but just a word for people’s shared feelings, are not so different from many other liberal theologies (RNW).

Slightly less tolerance was shown to Mark Edward Tynan of the Christian faith group “Servants of Jesus” this week when the Australian health watchdog banned him from practising any form of mental health medicine. The Psychologists Tribunal sadly took a dim view of Tynan’s opinion that dissociative identity disorder was caused by demons, and that one child’s mental health problems were due to her parents having dedicated her life to Satan. His innovative treatment plans of prayer and exorcisms were also roundly disapproved of (Telegraph(AU)).

Someone else to lose their job over a wacky belief this week is Baroness Jenny Tonge, shadow health spokesperson for the UK’s Liberal Democrat Party. Her problems started when an American blogger called Stephen Lendman resurrected the old “organ harvesting” myth in an article that accused Israeli medical teams sent to Haiti of doing just that. The allegations appeared in the Palestine Telegraph ,of which Tonge is patron, but it was for her suggestion to the Jewish Chronicle that an inquiry should be held to “dispel any rumours” that she got into trouble. Unfortunately for her, Liberal Party leader Nick Clegg did not feel the Israeli doctors should have to prove themselves innocent of any and all nonsense flung their way, and promptly removed her from her post (Spiked).

But that’s not to say that religion and politics can’t get along just fine. Or at least that’s the view of Indian-born Sikh Rajinder Singh, who aims to become the first, and probably only, non-white member of the ultra-far-right British Nationalist Party after a UK court ruled that their colour-bar on membership was illegal discrimination (ya think?). What attracted the retired teacher to join a party that does not consider any non-white person to be British, regardless of place of birth or naturalisation? Easy, the BNP are the only party that openly shares his opinion of Muslims (AFP).

Another odd match-up is religion and technology, but that hasn’t stopped a surprising growth in religiously themed apps for the latest generation of iPods and iPhones. Ranging from worthy efforts like apps that read biblical passages aloud (handy for the god-botherer on the go) to humorous efforts like the “Hallelujah” button which plays the refrain from Handel’s famous chorus when pressed (Telegraph).

But one thing that definitely doesn’t sit well with religion is fact. That at least is the opinion of Britain’s Office of National Statistics, who have become so fed up with trying to tease meaningful data out of people’s often tongue-in-cheek responses that they are considering scrapping a decadal census that stretches back over 200 years to 1801, and instead relying on existing government records. One example cited was from the last census, conducted in 2001, where nearly 400000 people registered their religion as “Jedi” and 7000 as “witch” (Times). Mind you, the lumping together of Jedis and Wiccans has already got one columnist hot under the collar (Guardian).

(Image: First Church of Atheism.)
     Posted By: Dumbfounded - Tue Feb 16, 2010
     Category: Disasters | Eccentrics | Government | Medicine | Religion





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“[Atheists] do not believe in shoving views down thoats..."

😕

"Atheists are, by definition, not joiners.”

I thought they were, by definition, people who lack belief in gods. As an atheist I am often struck by lightning how many atheists think atheism aligns perfectly with what they believe and how they behave. Hence you get strong atheists describing weak atheists as "just agnostics" and the weak atheists calling the strong "anti-theists", people saying atheists who go to church or allow their children to be baptised aren't "true atheists", and neither are any who join in with saying grace at the thanksgiving meal or celebrate Christmas or give to Oxfam.

Personally I don't particularly care what other people, even other atheists, believe. It's what they want me to believe I concern myself with.
Posted by Dumbfounded on 02/16/10 at 12:07 PM
This all reminds me of the South Park episodes where, in the future, athiests, inspired by Richard Dawkins, have an intraspecies "holy" war over the meaning of athiesm
Posted by odschneider on 02/16/10 at 12:39 PM
I once responded to someone bemoaning another person's beliefs as not being "proper atheism" by saying "Yeah, I bet they don't even eat off their tummies?!"

Right over their heads. :roll:
Posted by Dumbfounded on 02/16/10 at 12:46 PM
comparing individual beliefs with like minded people is a human trait, not a religious one. we gain strength and reassurance in this way.

i don't get why someone who does not believe in god would want to remain a preacher. if his beliefs have changed that much then the church is not serving his needs any better than he is serving the needs of his congregation. remaining a member is one thing, but how can one be a leader in something they no longer believe in?

while exorcism and prayer are not, by any means, acceptable psychological treatments, i can't imagine a child being dedicated to satan by his/her parents is psychologically healthy or helpful either.

how embarassing for a liberal organization to discover an anti-semite working for them.

british nat'l party- i'm thinking the chappelle show skit where dave played a blind kkk member. :lol:

hallelujah would make a great ringtone!

yeah, i can see wiccans getting pissed being lumped in with a fictional, alien, religion.
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 02/16/10 at 06:21 PM
"hallelujah would make a great ringtone!"

What a fantastic idea! I may just make that my next RT. 😊
Posted by Dumbfounded on 02/16/10 at 07:07 PM
when i was in high school (in the stone age) the junior/senior 'select' choir (we had to try out for a place and i got in!) performed 'the hallelujah chorus' at the christmas concert. it was a tradition that went back quite a few years. it is a beautiful piece of music and although difficult to learn, a joy to perform. how cool would it be for someone to have it as a rt and forget to turn the phone off while in church? 'let us bow our heads and pray...' 'HALLELUJAH HALLELUJAH HALLE-LU-JAH' :lol:
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 02/16/10 at 07:33 PM
Great gag. Quietly borrow someone's phone and load some "black metal" anthem like "Satan Divine" by Lord Belial as a ringtone. Set it at max volume as a personalised ringtone for when you ring. Wait until Sunday and give them a call.
:coolgrin:
Posted by Dumbfounded on 02/17/10 at 10:26 AM
i like it! :lol:
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 02/17/10 at 01:26 PM
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