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the writer of the article is a bit nutty. lady gaga simply paid attention to how much publicity odd symbolism brings to bands and artists (think st pepper or abbey road) and she is smart enough to use every advantage.
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 02/23/10 at 06:49 PM
malk :lol: funny dude.
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 02/23/10 at 11:38 PM
The article was definitely out there, but what got me, were the comments from people calling the author a genius and thanking him for pointing out the evil of Lady GaGa 🐛
Posted by Nethie on 02/24/10 at 03:06 AM
dumbfounded, i knew that was you from the first few lines! :lol:
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 09/14/10 at 08:31 AM
This is right up my alley, since my Th.D. is in Medieval Metaphysics & Eschatology and have a large collection of books & papers on many conspiracies.
OK, lets start with the "Essential Background Information," shall we? MK-ULTRA was a failure, as were Artichoke, Chatter, Bluebird, and the entire range of "MK" operations. This is from someone who owns a copy of the "MK Ultra Papers" and numerous texts on American Mind Control projects. Operation Monarch wasn't even one of the MK operations, it was made up as part of a "Recovered Memory" scam pursued by Mark Phillips and Cathy O’Brien. There is no Butterfly Trigger except in Ms. O'Brien's mind, never was, never will be; there are no triggers in Disney movies, SciFi movie & TV shows, the Dead Sea Scrolls, or or Garth Williams "The Tall Book of Make Believe." There are no other victims of Monarch except Ms. O'Brien, and no one else has "recovered" a memory that backs her up in any way.
Now on to the song: The opening lines "Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!/Roma-roma-mamaa!/Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!" is gibberish along the lines of "Rama-lama-ding-dong," and unless you believe that Satan put the Bomp in the Bomp, Bomp, Bomp you're off to a bad start in finding symbolic proof here. Trying to tie "Rah-Rah" to the Egyptian god Ra is pretty sloppy; which version of Ra do you mean? I'll assume you mean Re-Horakhty, the manifestation of Horus that represents him as ruler of the Sky, Earth & Underworld, since you keep mentioning the All Seeing Eye, and the All Seeing Eye is connected to Horus and not Ra. I'm surprised that you didn't try harder to tie her to the Catholic Church as an interpretation of the "Roma-Roma" line since the Church is a standard Bogeyman to many wannabe Bible scholars. Plus, you got the lines wrong: try "Rah-rah uh-uh-uh/Rhum-ah Rhum-ah-ah/Ga-Ga Ooh-la-la," which I guess could mean that drunken cheerleaders like her? The pronunciation & vowel stressing are slightly Mitteleuropa sounding, and since some small amount of "Gothic" styling comes from post-war/pre-Glasnost Eastern Europe (although more comes from the popular version of the Weimar Republic shown in Cabaret crossed with an offbeat interpretation of Victorian fashion), I guess you could call that a "Gothic accent." It sounds to my ear like she's imitating the old Gypsy woman from the Lon Chaney, Jr, version of The Wolf Man. And doing it badly.
Most of the lyrics are a standard "You're bad for me, but I want you anyway" shtick; a pastiche of much of Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, Rammstein, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. I actually like your idea that its the Music Industry that she has this damaged relationship with, having interacted with Major & Minor Labels, Radio Stations, concert promoters, club owners, and musicians in my life. I am surprised you missed her references to Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho, Vertigo & Rear Window, or maybe you just ignored them because you couldn't tie it into your narrative? How about the fact that the female leads in each of these movies are victims and powerless in violent situations?
OK, lets start with the "Essential Background Information," shall we? MK-ULTRA was a failure, as were Artichoke, Chatter, Bluebird, and the entire range of "MK" operations. This is from someone who owns a copy of the "MK Ultra Papers" and numerous texts on American Mind Control projects. Operation Monarch wasn't even one of the MK operations, it was made up as part of a "Recovered Memory" scam pursued by Mark Phillips and Cathy O’Brien. There is no Butterfly Trigger except in Ms. O'Brien's mind, never was, never will be; there are no triggers in Disney movies, SciFi movie & TV shows, the Dead Sea Scrolls, or or Garth Williams "The Tall Book of Make Believe." There are no other victims of Monarch except Ms. O'Brien, and no one else has "recovered" a memory that backs her up in any way.
Now on to the song: The opening lines "Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah-ah!/Roma-roma-mamaa!/Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!" is gibberish along the lines of "Rama-lama-ding-dong," and unless you believe that Satan put the Bomp in the Bomp, Bomp, Bomp you're off to a bad start in finding symbolic proof here. Trying to tie "Rah-Rah" to the Egyptian god Ra is pretty sloppy; which version of Ra do you mean? I'll assume you mean Re-Horakhty, the manifestation of Horus that represents him as ruler of the Sky, Earth & Underworld, since you keep mentioning the All Seeing Eye, and the All Seeing Eye is connected to Horus and not Ra. I'm surprised that you didn't try harder to tie her to the Catholic Church as an interpretation of the "Roma-Roma" line since the Church is a standard Bogeyman to many wannabe Bible scholars. Plus, you got the lines wrong: try "Rah-rah uh-uh-uh/Rhum-ah Rhum-ah-ah/Ga-Ga Ooh-la-la," which I guess could mean that drunken cheerleaders like her? The pronunciation & vowel stressing are slightly Mitteleuropa sounding, and since some small amount of "Gothic" styling comes from post-war/pre-Glasnost Eastern Europe (although more comes from the popular version of the Weimar Republic shown in Cabaret crossed with an offbeat interpretation of Victorian fashion), I guess you could call that a "Gothic accent." It sounds to my ear like she's imitating the old Gypsy woman from the Lon Chaney, Jr, version of The Wolf Man. And doing it badly.
Most of the lyrics are a standard "You're bad for me, but I want you anyway" shtick; a pastiche of much of Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, Rammstein, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. I actually like your idea that its the Music Industry that she has this damaged relationship with, having interacted with Major & Minor Labels, Radio Stations, concert promoters, club owners, and musicians in my life. I am surprised you missed her references to Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho, Vertigo & Rear Window, or maybe you just ignored them because you couldn't tie it into your narrative? How about the fact that the female leads in each of these movies are victims and powerless in violent situations?
Posted by Freddie Freelance on 09/15/10 at 12:07 PM
On to the video: you have the symbolism of the opening all wrong. When she & her dancers are climbing out of the "coffin/sensory deprivation tanks" they're not supposed to be referencing the Who's Tommy but Bondage & Domination Vinyl Fetishism, with the skintight material being another level of bondage and the sensory deprivation used to enhance the feeling of being in another's control. This is meant to be a disassociative device to put mental & emotional distance between the viewer and the characters in the video. The sunglasses aren't from Tommy, either, but another disassociative device like the bondage wear with the covered eyes, the bare white walls, singing to the mirror instead of directly to the audience, with the fast cut editing keeping us off balance, etc; we're not meant to make a connection with Gaga but merely to observe at this point. Did you notice she's wearing the same crown when in the white vinyl catsuit and the black dress? Do you see the visual quote from classic children's story "Where the Wild Things Are"? The bathtub is merely a bathtub; remember what was written on the glass door when we see Gaga & her dancers climbing out of the tanks? It says "Bath Haus of GaGa", and bathtubs are found in bath houses.
You've gotten the gist of the plot of the next part: super models kidnap Gaga, force her to drink Vodka & sell her to Russian mobsters, and the winner of the auction bursts into flames, but the symbols are way, way off. First of all you've got a Baphomet fetish, and Baphomet was created by King Philip IV of France and the Catholic Church as an excuse to seize the property of the Knights Templar and purge their membership; during the torture & trial of the Knights Templar their Baphomet was alternately described as a cat, a severed head, a sculpted head with three faces, and numerous other objects. No two descriptions matched and the descriptions were all extracted under torture and thus suspect. There is no demon Baphomet until the 18th century when he was created by anti-mason Catholics. Let me just point out that there are no Pagan worshipers of Baphomet, that there are no Animist worshipers of Baphomet, no Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, Bahá'í, Sikh, Shinto, Vodoun, or Wiccan worshipers of Baphomet. The only people who do worship Baphomet are misguided Christians who think they're rebelling against Christianity. By giving Baphomet such a large role YOU are giving glory to Baphomet, and no one else is. There is no Baphomet symbolism here except in your eye; the white Antelope heads on the wall are there as a representation of the cruelty of the Mafioso in who's bedroom they're found and not as a representation of a Christian created Demonic entity. Next, the "trademark 'Eye in the triangle' hand gesture" isn't, nor is there a connection to covering one eye in any school of Occultism. I have never seen any Occult writings that state that that is a symbol of Occultism, and the only groups who say covering one eye is an occult symbol are Christian anti-occult groups. If covering one eye were an actual symbol of the Occult Aleister Crowley would have had his picture taken doing it. You also claim that after the fire that consumes the Russian Mafioso "everything is burnt except the two gazelle heads," which is wrong, since Gaga isn't burnt but merely slightly soiled by lying on charcoal, nor are the walls, floor or ceiling even marked. The only thing consumed is the Mafioso and the mattress directly below him, with some charring & damage done to the rest of the mattress and only smoke damage done to the headboard, side tables & lamps; classic signs of Spontaneous Combustion, not ritual conflagration.
You've gotten the gist of the plot of the next part: super models kidnap Gaga, force her to drink Vodka & sell her to Russian mobsters, and the winner of the auction bursts into flames, but the symbols are way, way off. First of all you've got a Baphomet fetish, and Baphomet was created by King Philip IV of France and the Catholic Church as an excuse to seize the property of the Knights Templar and purge their membership; during the torture & trial of the Knights Templar their Baphomet was alternately described as a cat, a severed head, a sculpted head with three faces, and numerous other objects. No two descriptions matched and the descriptions were all extracted under torture and thus suspect. There is no demon Baphomet until the 18th century when he was created by anti-mason Catholics. Let me just point out that there are no Pagan worshipers of Baphomet, that there are no Animist worshipers of Baphomet, no Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, Bahá'í, Sikh, Shinto, Vodoun, or Wiccan worshipers of Baphomet. The only people who do worship Baphomet are misguided Christians who think they're rebelling against Christianity. By giving Baphomet such a large role YOU are giving glory to Baphomet, and no one else is. There is no Baphomet symbolism here except in your eye; the white Antelope heads on the wall are there as a representation of the cruelty of the Mafioso in who's bedroom they're found and not as a representation of a Christian created Demonic entity. Next, the "trademark 'Eye in the triangle' hand gesture" isn't, nor is there a connection to covering one eye in any school of Occultism. I have never seen any Occult writings that state that that is a symbol of Occultism, and the only groups who say covering one eye is an occult symbol are Christian anti-occult groups. If covering one eye were an actual symbol of the Occult Aleister Crowley would have had his picture taken doing it. You also claim that after the fire that consumes the Russian Mafioso "everything is burnt except the two gazelle heads," which is wrong, since Gaga isn't burnt but merely slightly soiled by lying on charcoal, nor are the walls, floor or ceiling even marked. The only thing consumed is the Mafioso and the mattress directly below him, with some charring & damage done to the rest of the mattress and only smoke damage done to the headboard, side tables & lamps; classic signs of Spontaneous Combustion, not ritual conflagration.
Posted by Freddie Freelance on 09/15/10 at 12:37 PM
On to “Other Symbols:” While Ra is one of the Egyptian sun gods he isn’t one of the Egyptian gods of Occult knowledge, nor is the sun at the center of Occult mysteries; the sun and sun gods are the antithesis of Occultism & mystery cults since Occultism means “Hidden” and the sun reveals what is hidden. There is no image of the sun in the razorblade shades; the symbol of the sun is the sun disk, with or without rays, and rays without a sun disk are used as a representation of the glory of God. Gold is often used in symbols of the sun in most Pagan & Occult traditions, but so were all yellowish metals, including Copper, Brass & Bronze. The Golden Sunlight didn’t bring Gaga back to life; she & her dancers didn’t stir until the golden light had crossed the room to be replaced with a stark, bright white artificial light. Gaga is not at the center of planetary orbits since there are no planets represented on the rings surrounding her outfit; I’d say this is pretty obviously representing Saturn with its planetary rings. The Roman god Saturn was the god of dancing, as well as agriculture, justice and strength; the feast of Saturn was selected by the early Christians to be the time of Christ’s birth, giving us a midwinter Christmas when the Bible account of the shepherds watching over their flocks speaks of a spring or summer date for the actual birth of Christ.
Gaga is referring to herself with the “Monster” label with the cross replacing the letter “T” on the pod she exits at the start of the video, not Christianity itself. This is a bit of self aggrandizing theater along the lines of Madonna using the symbol of the Crucifix in multiple videos and photos and not an attack on Christianity in general. I’m not certain what you mean by “[n]otice the position of her hands,” but I’ll assume you’re referring to Baphomet’s horns (incorrectly again); the use of cupped hands held upwards above your head represent the miming of animal ears, and pointed fingers represent horns. The cross isn’t placed right on her “privates,” it is hanging from one of a series of crystal & black bead necklaces hanging from her neck and draped around her arms; saying that she placed the cross on her privates is as willfully lying as saying gravity is disrespecting the cross by not pulling it all the way to the floor. You are right when you say that she’s not making the sign of the cross but a triangle, and the triangle can be a phallic symbol, but the triangle has also been a symbol for the Holy Trinity of God in Three Persons for nearly 2,000 years; I believe that the motions she’s making there can also be interpreted as American Sign Language
The “Reptilian Monster Symbolism” is especially weak: the prominent spine & ribs have been used as a symbol of someone being under a physical or metaphorical heavy weight for centuries. The glowing spine is from light reflecting off the shower wall and lighting up her back. The bat is just a bat; it’s a way of jumping out & saying “Boo.” Yes, that demon was painted with a prominent spine, but I have also seen paintings of the Scourging of Christ with a similarly prominent spine & ribs.
Gaga is referring to herself with the “Monster” label with the cross replacing the letter “T” on the pod she exits at the start of the video, not Christianity itself. This is a bit of self aggrandizing theater along the lines of Madonna using the symbol of the Crucifix in multiple videos and photos and not an attack on Christianity in general. I’m not certain what you mean by “[n]otice the position of her hands,” but I’ll assume you’re referring to Baphomet’s horns (incorrectly again); the use of cupped hands held upwards above your head represent the miming of animal ears, and pointed fingers represent horns. The cross isn’t placed right on her “privates,” it is hanging from one of a series of crystal & black bead necklaces hanging from her neck and draped around her arms; saying that she placed the cross on her privates is as willfully lying as saying gravity is disrespecting the cross by not pulling it all the way to the floor. You are right when you say that she’s not making the sign of the cross but a triangle, and the triangle can be a phallic symbol, but the triangle has also been a symbol for the Holy Trinity of God in Three Persons for nearly 2,000 years; I believe that the motions she’s making there can also be interpreted as American Sign Language
The “Reptilian Monster Symbolism” is especially weak: the prominent spine & ribs have been used as a symbol of someone being under a physical or metaphorical heavy weight for centuries. The glowing spine is from light reflecting off the shower wall and lighting up her back. The bat is just a bat; it’s a way of jumping out & saying “Boo.” Yes, that demon was painted with a prominent spine, but I have also seen paintings of the Scourging of Christ with a similarly prominent spine & ribs.
Posted by Freddie Freelance on 09/15/10 at 02:43 PM
Now let us cover a piece of obvious symbolism that you missed: remember how I pointed out the parallel between her crowns in the beginning of the video and Max's crown in "Where the Wild Things Are"? Did you also see her Diamond Crown in the part where she's dancing for the Mafiosi on a glowing white floor? And the outfit she wears of Diamonds & Gold? Let's look at Rev. 12:1
Wow, Lady Gaga as the amazement of St. John, a symbol of the Christian Church!
"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars"
Wow, Lady Gaga as the amazement of St. John, a symbol of the Christian Church!
Posted by Freddie Freelance on 09/15/10 at 03:00 PM
gee freddie, is everyone here on wu a genius in one genre or another except me?
Posted by Patty in Ohio, USA on 09/15/10 at 03:03 PM
The “Reptilian Monster Symbolism” is especially weak: the prominent spine & ribs have been used as a symbol of someone being under a physical or metaphorical heavy weight for centuries. The glowing spine is from light reflecting off the shower wall and lighting up her back. The bat is just a bat; it’s a way of jumping out & saying “Boo.” Yes, that demon was painted with a prominent spine, but I have also seen paintings of the Scourging of Christ with a similarly prominent spine & ribs.
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